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 Cerberus.Oroka
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By Cerberus.Oroka 2011-03-07 12:02:59
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WAR TP SET


WAR RR SET


What I'm looking for is what I should change and why if you can, any input that will help is appreciated. Thanks.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-03-07 12:12:39
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Basically this for raging Rush/Ukko's (Thunder Gorget/Belt for Ukkos)



For TP if your not /SAM grim Cuirass should beat body +2
If Berserk is down Grim should beat Zahak's Mail.

Excuse my Mask not being +2

WARTP Here for me.


I need a Goading but haste is still capped. The elemental resistance/HP down isnt a big deal for me since I have a MDT and PDT build

I'd use Ravager's Orb or bomb core over fire bomblet.
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By Asura.Isiolia 2011-03-07 12:16:03
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You likely don't need the ACC from the Bomblet for TP. Could optimally try to configure that towards a 5-hit, at least inside Abyssea, which would mean a few swaps.

For RR, remember that it doesn't actually have a DEX mod, and that with Cruor buffs/RR, dDEX for crit rate will be capped. Definitely leave +2 feet in for crit damage increase. Probably leave +2 legs and Atheling in for DA boost. A crit% body or large ATT/STR body would be good as well.
Outside of Abyssea, some of that may be different.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-03-07 12:17:22
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Bellicus Cuisses would be nice but I cant get decent augs.
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By Bismarck.Altar 2011-03-07 12:32:11
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Are you inside of abyssea or out?
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By Cerberus.Oroka 2011-03-07 12:37:29
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Bismarck.Altar said:
Are you inside of abyssea or out?

Inside Abyssea mostly, but outside gear advice would be good also. Those TP and WS sets I posted are all I have as far as inside or outside of abyssea goes
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By Bismarck.Altar 2011-03-07 12:44:56
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Heading out, so cant give a detailed explanation atm, but off the top of my head,
Ditch twilight mail for Atheling in ws
Full time Ravager's orb
Full time ravager's earring
Full time Af3+2 Feet

For Ukko's I tend to use Af3+2 over haidate. I'm thinking it would be the same for RR
Given your gear, I'm thinking you could afford/get the r/e pieces that you would need for a pure 5hit /sam; If that's something you'd be willing to do, it would increase your overall dps significantly/

All of this would be inside abyssea. You'd want to gear a little differently outside of abyssea, where you aren't instantly capped on most stats.
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2011-03-07 12:52:39
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Correct me if I'm wrong but wouldn't a 5-hit build be better?



With Carbonara this is a 5-hit build & Capped Haste.

Edit: Don't know why second ring isn't showing :<
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-03-07 12:54:39
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Im hating myself for not having rose strap :/
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2011-03-07 12:56:19
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Could use Hoard Ring instead.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-03-07 13:01:52
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Hmm my main complain is when I finish Ukon. Im gonna have to do camp. battles non stop D:
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By Carbuncle.Sevourn 2011-03-07 13:01:56
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Fenrir.Skarwind said:
Im hating myself for not having rose strap :/

it's a pretty effortless project at this point, though mabye a sorta long-term one

like 15 min a day once every 5 days for a month or two
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By Cerberus.Oroka 2011-06-07 19:33:46
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I was wondering if this


would be better then this?
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-06-07 19:35:12
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no
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-06-07 19:37:28
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lol
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By Bahamut.Serj 2011-06-07 19:37:48
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Odin.Sheelay said:
no
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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-06-07 19:59:24
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well, the extra store tp doesn't do anything for you as far as i can tell, unless i mathed wrong 2 ticks vv won't bring the second set down to a 5hit (and some people don't use vv anymore anyway).

so you're looking at:
str 12, att 14, crit 3%, da 4%
vs.
str 9, att ~27

assuming capped ddex/acc, no restraint, no need for hp etc.

but correct me if i'm wrong, because i haven't even bothered to gear my war.
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-06-07 20:11:56
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I believe the 504 Delay GA should aim for the Sword strap, which is where the extra Stp on build #2 comes into play.
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By Fenrir.Skarwind 2011-06-07 20:14:04
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I've had good results with claymore grip personally. Though Claymore/Sword are basically the best grips atm? X hit build not being effected by sword strap that is

4 Chesma's away from Ukon btw :D
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-06-07 20:17:50
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Fenrir.Skarwind said:
I've had good results with claymore grip personally. Though Claymore/Sword are basically the best grips atm? X hit build not being effected by sword strap that is

4 Chesma's away from Ukon btw :D

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By Ramuh.Lorzy 2011-06-07 20:19:27
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Odin.Sheelay said:
I believe the 504 Delay GA should aim for the Sword strap, which is where the extra Stp on build #2 comes into play.
yeah i never said either was best, but technically the first set is better than the second one, as it was given.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-06-13 16:46:12
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Hello,

I've just hit level 90 on my WAR this morning, and the concept of gearing it is somewhat alien to me. I've seen mention of 5-hit setups but no mention of how to attain them, and mention of 6-hit setups like the ones further up. For now I'll have to work with Elephas Axe/Warlord's Axe/Widowmaker, but I plan on working toward Maschu+2, so I'm mostly working with 504 delay G.axes.

After working it out myself, a 5-hit seems to require carbonara unless I'm missing a piece of gear. Again, I'm not very familiar with WAR.

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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2011-06-13 16:49:16
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Probably forgetting Tactical Mantle, but yea I'd have 6hit with Sword strap anyway.
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-06-13 16:54:16
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-06-13 16:55:09
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yes
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By Valefor.Prothescar 2011-06-13 16:55:55
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Ok, thanks. Easy then
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By Odin.Dirtyfinger 2011-06-13 16:56:14
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Bullwhip and different ring like Mars's Ring if you can get.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-06-13 16:58:00
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Can get 20.9 TP/hit with a 504 delay gaxe, so it's completely attainable.

---/Rose/---/Wtath
Zelus/Ravager's/Ravager's/Brutal
AF3+2/AF3+2/Hoard/Rajas
Tactical/Goading/AF3+2/AF3+2

is 20.5 TP, meaning you can WS in just Rajas/Rose/Brutal for 100.1 TP/cycle as long as you land one additional hit of Raging Rush. Regain earring or VV ticks would offer some flexibility, or you could WS in some STP to reduce STP needed for TP slightly.

Actually, just occurred to me that Ukon now has a 5-hit without regain thanks to STP augment on Byakko's Haidate? Worth it? No, but it's possible! /slowpoke

EDIT: but as mentioned, 6hit gogo
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By Odin.Sheelay 2011-06-13 17:00:23
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Fenrir.Nightfyre said:


Actually, just occurred to me that Ukon now has a 5-hit without regain thanks to STP augment on Byakko's Haidate? Worth it? No, but it's possible! /slowpoke

Here is where I imagine you talking to yourself with two different voices and speech styles and debating over things XD
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