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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-01-14 14:43:03
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Some how, the next update is going to magically make all af3+2 useless.
 
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By Shiva.Nikolce 2011-01-14 14:52:57
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[/quote] no one uses haste atmas. also you can tell pretty quickly just by attack rate alone a well geared NIN vs not. lastly, I take offense that anyone can do well as WHM I think I've seen several people complain about shitty WHMs, many people don't take the job seriously, many don't even fully understand all of their JAs and spells to be as efficient as possible. I agree that you don't need the best gear to have fun playing the game, but I think you should always be working on improving your toon to raise the ceiling that someone called out before.[/quote]

I agree, I am constanly working on getting that next great gear piece, there is alot of fun too be had in that part of the game too. I'm also certainly not saying there are no bad wms out there, just suggesting that when DDs complain ALL the mages they play with are bad they really need to look into their skills. Same goes for gear, if you find yourself saying "if only I had this ____ set, I would be awesome" chances are high it's not the gear.

As a carreer whm sitting in the back I have seen guys with really great gear suck, quite frankly. And I have also seen guys with sort of patchwork quilt gear, but they know how to make the most out of it, really shine. I admit I only dabble with dd and my gear is lax, but I seek those really good dds out and check out their gear swaps and talk to them alot about ws timing and just practice. Go out and duo with them and learn about how to give and take hate, when to hold your wad and when to...wait a minute this is starting to sound like "the gambler" from kenny rodgers



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By Phoenix.Ingraham 2011-01-14 15:02:09
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The rest of the (High) Kindred Crests not used Magian trials are gonna be used for a new Battlefield with incredibly strict requirements on the party roster. Maybe purely job-specific. The drops will be so overwhelmingly amazing though, including upgrade items for AF3...+3.

THIS IS HOW THEY WILL ATTEMPT TO BALANCE JOB USE. I WOULD KNOW, I CAME HERE THROUGH A CAVERNOUS MAW (FROM THE NEW EXPANSION, "GODS OF THE FAR EAST") TO TELL YOU GUYS
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By Caitsith.Mahayaya 2011-01-14 15:08:31
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Phoenix.Ingraham said:
The rest of the (High) Kindred Crests not used Magian trials are gonna be used for a new Battlefield with incredibly strict requirements on the party roster. Maybe purely job-specific. The drops will be so overwhelmingly amazing though, including upgrade items for AF3...+3. THIS IS HOW THEY WILL ATTEMPT TO BALANCE JOB USE. I WOULD KNOW, I CAME HERE THROUGH A CAVERNOUS MAW (FROM THE NEW EXPANSION, "GODS OF THE FAR EAST") TO TELL YOU GUYS

Abyssea to WotG: Odd how these Maws have petrified. I wonder what could have caused that. Anyway, use our cavernous maws to travel into Abyssea.

GotFE to Abyssea: Strange to see that you already have a cavernous maw in this land, I wonder what they are for. Anyway, use our cavernous maws to travel into the land of the Gods of the Far East.
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By Lakshmi.Aurilius 2011-01-14 15:14:40
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If I were SE, I'd take the lazy way out. Just make AF3+3 at 95 and +4 at 99.

Game over man, game over.
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2011-01-14 15:38:51
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my only question is we all know what white boxes and blue boxes are what color would +3s be? ^^
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By Lakshmi.Aurilius 2011-01-14 15:40:28
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Silver for +3 and Gold for +4? They could make it *** Magenta and Lilac for all I care.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-01-14 15:41:20
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+3 is yellow box, eg http://www.ffxiah.com/item/4119/hi-potion-3.
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By Leviathan.Pimpchan 2011-01-14 15:43:26
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Shiva.Flionheart said:
Leviathan.Pimpchan said:
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don't need cor or bard in the magic whm+mnk setups nublet

WHM+MNK is a non-gryellow NM killing combination. You want a different one for red and gryellow and Bard can only help. If you don't cleave etc, one is great for pulling. More buffs are helpful on some of the trickier NMs, etc etc.
Noone gives a ***, abyssea is over now, get over it.

ITT: Pchan knows what the developers are planning

Also... Go make me a sammich.


You look like one of those idiots that think they'll release more abyssea or those that think AF3+2 or empyreal will get upgrades. They turned salvage to trash and will do so to ashittea. Umad ¿

 
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2011-01-14 15:45:05
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Bahamut.Raenryong said:

touche, gg
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By Shiva.Flionheart 2011-01-14 15:45:16
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Leviathan.Pimpchan said:
Shiva.Flionheart said:
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don't need cor or bard in the magic whm+mnk setups nublet

WHM+MNK is a non-gryellow NM killing combination. You want a different one for red and gryellow and Bard can only help. If you don't cleave etc, one is great for pulling. More buffs are helpful on some of the trickier NMs, etc etc.
Noone gives a ***, abyssea is over now, get over it.

ITT: Pchan knows what the developers are planning

Also... Go make me a sammich.


You look like one of those idiots that think they'll release more abyssea or those that think AF3+2 or empyreal will get upgrades. They turned salvage to trash and will do so to ashittea. Umad ¿


You're doing it wrong.

I knew women couldn't park cars, but I thought they could at least park question marks the right way.
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By Lakshmi.Aurilius 2011-01-14 15:46:31
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Sounds to me like you're mad. Mad they made all your salvage work worthless.

If they completely 180 the game again, it just gives people more things to do that actually enjoy the game for what it happens to be: a game.


I'm still of the belief that they will not completely 180 the game again though. The general consensus is that people are enjoying abyssea a lot more than the way the game used to be. We shall see either way though. I'm sure you'll complain no matter what happens.
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By Phoenix.Fredjan 2011-01-14 15:51:03
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Bahamut.Raenryong said:

That's funny, I could've sworn there were at least 7 weeks to go until the next update which is still unlikely to completely obsolete Abyssea.

I'm sorry Pchan, did somebody call you out on your stupidity?

is that even necessary
I doubt we might get real content on March, tbh.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-01-14 15:51:21
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Leviathan.Pimpchan said:
You look like one of those idiots that think they'll release more abyssea or those that think AF3+2 or empyreal will get upgrades. They turned salvage to trash and will do so to ashittea. Umad ¿

Most salvage drops were minor upgrades from existing items. Most AF3+1/2 etc drops are massive upgrades from existing items - that is why Salvage got raped outside of its better pieces. SE couldn't both introduce new progression and yet keep Salvage gear on top ... it followed the old philosophy of "work hard for +1 stat".
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By Leviathan.Pimpchan 2011-01-14 16:34:57
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Lakshmi.Aurilius said:
Sounds to me like you're mad. Mad they made all your salvage work worthless.

If they completely 180 the game again, it just gives people more things to do that actually enjoy the game for what it happens to be: a game.


I'm still of the belief that they will not completely 180 the game again though. The general consensus is that people are enjoying abyssea a lot more than the way the game used to be. We shall see either way though. I'm sure you'll complain no matter what happens.

Big lol. So you manage to say it's a good thing that ashittea is 180 but then you don't think they will turn it again. Look 100% of the gear from the first abyssea is outdone is #3..
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By Carbuncle.Asymptotic 2011-01-14 16:36:15
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Phoenix.Fredjan said:
Bahamut.Raenryong said:

That's funny, I could've sworn there were at least 7 weeks to go until the next update which is still unlikely to completely obsolete Abyssea.

I'm sorry Pchan, did somebody call you out on your stupidity?

is that even necessary
I doubt we might get real content on March, tbh.

inb4 "New fiends have been added to Abyssea areas!"
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By Leviathan.Pimpchan 2011-01-14 16:37:27
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Bahamut.Raenryong said:
Leviathan.Pimpchan said:
You look like one of those idiots that think they'll release more abyssea or those that think AF3+2 or empyreal will get upgrades. They turned salvage to trash and will do so to ashittea. Umad ¿

Most salvage drops were minor upgrades from existing items. Most AF3+1/2 etc drops are massive upgrades from existing items - that is why Salvage got raped outside of its better pieces. SE couldn't both introduce new progression and yet keep Salvage gear on top ... it followed the old philosophy of "work hard for +1 stat".


Most AF3+2 are MINOR upgrade from pre existing gear dumbass, open your eyes.
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By Leviathan.Draylo 2011-01-14 17:04:53
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Leviathan.Pimpchan said:
Bahamut.Raenryong said:
Leviathan.Pimpchan said:
You look like one of those idiots that think they'll release more abyssea or those that think AF3+2 or empyreal will get upgrades. They turned salvage to trash and will do so to ashittea. Umad ¿

Most salvage drops were minor upgrades from existing items. Most AF3+1/2 etc drops are massive upgrades from existing items - that is why Salvage got raped outside of its better pieces. SE couldn't both introduce new progression and yet keep Salvage gear on top ... it followed the old philosophy of "work hard for +1 stat".


Most AF3+2 are MINOR upgrade from pre existing gear dumbass, open your eyes.

No, they aren't.
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By Caitsith.Linear 2011-01-14 17:12:30
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Most AF3+2 are MINOR upgrade from pre existing gear dumbass, open your eyes.

Maybe when Atmas are taken into account.
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By Leviathan.Pimpchan 2011-01-14 17:14:44
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Most AF3+2 are MINOR upgrade from pre existing gear dumbass, open your eyes.

Maybe when Atmas are taken into account.

Why would you not take them into account. Atma makes fstr irrelevant, any DD using proper food and dia3 caps pdif, accuracy is irrelevant due to atma. What's left ? crits, "augment" stuffs and other artificial boosts ; and no haste is irrelevant because almost everyone caps with previous gear or previous gear + non AF3+2 gear.
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By Titan.Darkestknight 2011-01-14 17:17:08
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Leviathan.Pimpchan said:
You look like one of those idiots that think they'll release more abyssea or those that think AF3+2 or empyreal will get upgrades. They turned salvage to trash and will do so to ashittea. Umad ¿

Guess I'm an idiot then, I wouldn't be surprised if they did do AF3 +3
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2011-01-14 17:18:08
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Leviathan.Pimpchan said:
Bahamut.Raenryong said:
Leviathan.Pimpchan said:
You look like one of those idiots that think they'll release more abyssea or those that think AF3+2 or empyreal will get upgrades. They turned salvage to trash and will do so to ashittea. Umad ¿

Most salvage drops were minor upgrades from existing items. Most AF3+1/2 etc drops are massive upgrades from existing items - that is why Salvage got raped outside of its better pieces. SE couldn't both introduce new progression and yet keep Salvage gear on top ... it followed the old philosophy of "work hard for +1 stat".


Most AF3+2 are MINOR upgrade from pre existing gear dumbass, open your eyes.

simple question: if that's true than how exactly did they "turned salvage to trash"

salvage = trash = MINOR upgrade?
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By Caitsith.Linear 2011-01-14 17:18:40
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Leviathan.Pimpchan said:
Caitsith.Linear said:
Leviathan.Pimpchan said:
Most AF3+2 are MINOR upgrade from pre existing gear dumbass, open your eyes.

Maybe when Atmas are taken into account.

Why would you not take them into account. Atmas makes fstr irrelevant, any DD using proper food and dia3 caps pdif, accuracy is irrelevant due to atma. What's left ? crits, "augment" stuffs and other artificial boosts ; and no haste is irrelevant because almost everyone caps with previous gear or previous gear + non AF3+2 gear.

I was going along your "ABYSSEAISTEHOVER!" crap.
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By Bahamut.Raenryong 2011-01-14 17:20:39
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Leviathan.Pimpchan said:
Bahamut.Raenryong said:
Leviathan.Pimpchan said:
You look like one of those idiots that think they'll release more abyssea or those that think AF3+2 or empyreal will get upgrades. They turned salvage to trash and will do so to ashittea. Umad ¿

Most salvage drops were minor upgrades from existing items. Most AF3+1/2 etc drops are massive upgrades from existing items - that is why Salvage got raped outside of its better pieces. SE couldn't both introduce new progression and yet keep Salvage gear on top ... it followed the old philosophy of "work hard for +1 stat".


Most AF3+2 are MINOR upgrade from pre existing gear dumbass, open your eyes.

Not even going to justify this with a rebuttal. If you can't see how amazing +2 in particular is... well...
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By Gilgamesh.Tweeek 2011-01-14 17:24:54
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sometimes my brain wanders off when reading pchan's posts and I forget that it was today that the person I am about to post a reply to hoping for a competent answer is in fact the same person who JUST tried to tell us BRD and COR are less useful than a PLD inside of Abyssea.
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By Sylph.Kimble 2011-01-14 17:33:23
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There is still alot of gear in the old abyssea zones that are good.

Not to mention you still need to get 50 items for one of the stages of abyssea weapons there.

Honestly, Pchan, you are just way to butt hurt that Salvage gear got outdated.

You have never even stepped foot in abyssea so learn to stfu about things you have no idea about.

Honestly, the funny thing to me is, Abyssea really is just a larger scale salvage with much greater rewards to me.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-01-14 18:04:17
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I'm slowly becoming convinced that Pchan is just trolling the ***out of us with these comments.
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