Blade: Hi WS Set.

This goes to the last 2 posters. Why would you use seiryu's inside and not outside? it can have crit rate+3 and it has more agi than iga+2. Curious as I'm going to eventually build a kannagi.

I currently don't have any crit augments on Seiryu's so I heard the dex on Iga is better for crit hit rate outside but I'm not sure.

1.Anguinus/Cuch are pretty close together.
2.Hope/Rancorous beats out Rancor/Atheling.
3.Stormsoul
4.Moonshade Att+4,TPBonus+25
5.Shura kabuto +1 with good aug’s could be an upgrade… Iirc it parses pretty close to Oce. Head +1 in certain situations. As far as hands go, Seiryu with Crit+ seems to be ideal.

Should Never use Soil Gorget/Belt?

There's no point in using that combo anymore, at least for Blade: Hi anyway. Rancor collars are cheap as hell now, and an Anguinus belt is super easy to get now, so should try for that if Hope torque and Rancorous mantle is out of your reach.

Also, you should be using those kitty pants inside abyssea. Crit damage is more valuable there.

I have Hope/rancorous, should I use em inside aby also? With anguinus/cuchulain's?

Yes. I don't personally have Hope torque yet, but i've been messing around with Houyi's gorget and my WS damage has increased. That being said, i can imagine what a Hope torque would do.

Eyeballing.

It's not eyeballing when you know for a fact that your overall weaponskill damage is better than it used to be. Call it what you want, but i know a better setup when i see it. Also, thanks for going out of your way for posting something that wasn't useful to anyone.

If you're claiming to have noticed the increase from using one piece of equipment over another, no, you don't know a better setup when you see it.

There's a stigma attached to eyeballing for a reason. Confirmation bias is extremely powerful.

I too went to a public high school where the ability to use a thesaurus to complicate simple statements was considered a valuable life skill.

I don't think any of that required a thesaurus; furthermore his use of language is actually elegant as opposed to verbose.

My fish bots never went to high school, so they appreciate the colloquial phrasing.

Uh, I know. I hate when one of them [+]s me :/, and I was totally sated once my ToM NM popped!

I wasn't talking about just one piece of gear, i was responding to someone who asked a question about gear sets. So, i gave an answer on what is better from my testing(not eyeballing). When i use the word "test", i'm not talking about doing 10 WSs and saying it's better. I admit, i got a little irritated from the "eyeballing" poster, but then again i'm not a morning person. But, what annoys me more, is the fact i get more posters saying the same thing in a wall of text, and have not yet posted any info proving me wrong. So in the meantime, i'll be waiting for these results.

There isn't anything to test anyways.

It basically comes down to the good ol' "which is better, rancor collar + atheling or hope torque + rancorous mantle" debate. And i said that Hope + Rancorous would win. Then i said that personally i don't have hope torque, but from using Houyi's gorget i saw my overall WS damage was better. Meaning i used my WS numerous times, on different mobs including high tier VWNMs. Inside abyssea and out, my overall WS damage was better. Is it the best set? No. Is it better than my previous WS set? Yes. That's all i was saying, wasn't trying to give the best set, wasn't saying "*chest pump* my WS set is the best, you're dumb if you don't use it." I was just saying from my experience that the set i use is better. Everyone that has a Kannagi doesn't have Nin as their main job, i'm just trying to give them options to still be good at using a Kannagi and not be like 90% of the Nins i see offhanding Agi katanas or something crazy.

well since you tested it so much, you don't mind sharing do you?

Experience doesn't matter, what you think doesn't matter, for physical weapon skills, changing one or two pieces of gear doesn't often shift the average by such a drastic amount that you can just "see" the difference so you have two choices: one is do the math to determine which is better for a particular situation, the other is to do a controlled experiment with large sample sizes and analyze the data.

The formulae are well known enough that (2) will converge to or vwry close to (1) as sample size approaches infinity so there's no reason to "test" anything with known parameters.

And if you honestly believe that in an event space with a three or four digit range that you can just "notice" a single to low_double digit shift in the distribution without proper analysis, you're either a calculator savant, or the door is that way ---->

See, that's my only problem that i will admit lol. Since i don't run any 3rd party programs including windower, i pretty much wrote down my info on scrap pieces of paper and did math from there. It wasn't a "OMGWTFBBQ" increase in damage, but it was noticable enough to take into consideration for myself and others.

About how much?

You don't need windower to define a target and calculate average WS damage for a set.

About 52-88 more damage on regular His, and about +109(maybe slightly more) on spiked His. like i said, it's not major, but it was noticable to me.