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 Leviathan.Kajii
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By Leviathan.Kajii 2011-10-01 15:58:48
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Item Set

How is this for an outside set? Would Bersail Cap or Deceit Mask be better? I don't see Ocelomeh Headpiece, let alone the +1, in my future until the price drops.
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By Leviathan.Kajii 2011-10-02 21:41:25
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Anyone? lol
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By Bismarck.Snprphnx 2011-10-02 23:24:43
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Leviathan.Kajii said: »
Anyone? lol

why are you stacking dex?
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By Fenrir.Skadoosh 2011-10-02 23:28:36
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Bismarck.Snprphnx said: »
why are you stacking dex?

Leviathan.Kajii said: »
outside set
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-10-02 23:52:25
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Ditch the back and earring.
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By Leviathan.Kajii 2011-10-02 23:54:58
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What to use instead and what about headslot?

Also, do most WS in Rancor Collar inside?
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-10-03 00:00:46
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I don't see any reason to not use iga back for an outside set. For head, I think bersail cap would be better until you get your hands on ocelomeh/leonine/anwig.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-10-03 00:03:16
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Phoenix.Kirana said: »
I don't see any reason to not use iga back for an outside set. For head, I think bersail cap would be better until you get your hands on ocelomeh/leonine/anwig.
It's a pretty lousy trade, any properly constructed set that's gotten to the point where Atheling > Iga is your best swap is going to see essentially the same damage either way. Atheling is inv+1 and doesn't require you to precisely estimate the mob's AGI. If you're going to build for crits, set your target DEX somewhere where it's not a super marginal increase over a full damage set even when you're at dDEX=50.

Leviathan.Kajii said: »
What to use instead and what about headslot?

Also, do most WS in Rancor Collar inside?
Atheling, Centaurus or Moonshade TP Bonus, yes.
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By Ragnarok.Gunit 2011-10-03 22:16:16
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Leviathan.Kajii said: »
Anyone? lol
+2 hands
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By Bahamut.Alpaka 2011-10-04 08:27:54
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Here is my inside Hi set:
Item Set

Here is my inside TP set:
Item Set


Was wondering if there is any changes I could make to those 2 sets (besides hachi feet and ocelomeh+1 head, which im working on atm.) Also if someone could post a solid Hi and TP set for outside? Redoing my nin xml :)
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By Leviathan.Kajii 2011-10-04 18:03:50
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Centaurus Earring and Anguinus Belt for WS. If your B Haidate got augmented with Crit+4 and Agi then you should WS in those as well.
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By Phoenix.Neosutra 2011-10-04 18:06:52
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Anyone have any comments on Oce. Helm (+1) versus Maat's cap for outside WS? Higher modifier and dDex contribution, but loss of fStr contributions (which wont be capped outside abyssea).
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By Sylph.Katoplepa 2011-10-05 11:15:54
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do you think moonshade earring is useful in some ways in macro for blade:hi? dunno, maybe attk+4 and 25 tp bonus ?
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By Fenrir.Leoheart 2011-10-05 11:24:17
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Sylph.Katoplepa said: »
do you think moonshade earring is useful in some ways in macro for blade:hi? dunno, maybe attk+4 and 25 tp bonus ?


Fenrir.Nightfyre said: »
Leviathan.Kajii said: »
What to use instead and what about headslot?

Also, do most WS in Rancor Collar inside?
Atheling, Centaurus or Moonshade TP Bonus, yes.
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By Quetzalcoatl.Rokusho 2011-10-06 20:41:42
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ok i just got blade HI and dont know wich set to go with... this are my choices (the sets are for ABYSSEA):

epona/brutal or AGI ring/earring

soil belt or anguinus or AGI belt

soil gorget or rancor collar

kamome or agi sekka +3

im using RR-GH-Apoc....

so any ideas wich are the best?

thanx for feedback!!
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By Bahamut.Aeronis 2011-10-06 20:43:35
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Quetzalcoatl.Rokusho said: »
ok i just got blade HI and dont know wich set to go with... this are my choices (the sets are for ABYSSEA):

epona/brutal or AGI ring/earring

soil belt or anguinus or AGI belt

soil gorget or rancor collar

kamome or agi sekka +3

im using RR-GH-Apoc....

so any ideas wich are the best?

thanx for feedback!!
Well you could start by reading this thread... Because everything you've asked has been addressed in the thread a plethora of times...
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By Bahamut.Alpaka 2011-10-06 20:47:17
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Leviathan.Kajii said: »
Centaurus Earring and Anguinus Belt for WS. If your B Haidate got augmented with Crit+4 and Agi then you should WS in those as well.
The light earring has crit hit rate +1, still use cent over it?
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By Quetzalcoatl.Rokusho 2011-10-06 20:49:16
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yeah i did but its like 26 pages... so if anyone was bored enough to write, better
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By Omegacloud0223 2011-10-07 17:04:42
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I'm kinda curious, I rarely post on any type of forums, but I had a question.

Outside WS setup
Main: Kannagi(90)
Sub: Oirandori
Ammo: Q. Tath
Head: Cuauhtli headpiece+1
Neck: Rancor Collar
Ear1: Aesir
Ear2: Brutal
Body: Iga+2
Hands: Seiryu(w/ crit hit rate+3%)
Ring1: Rajas
Ring2: Epona's
Back: Atheling
Waist: Soil belt
Legs: Byakko's(w/ Agi+6, lolMnd+4 & STP+3)
Feet: Lithe boots

My question is, with this setup(without counting merits), my WS stats would be Str+31, Dex+50 & Agi+50. Which category would I benefit from more, meriting Str or Agi? Also, what is the cap on Agi when you won't see much of a difference in damage?
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By Carbuncle.Tweeek 2011-10-07 17:28:49
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By Omegacloud0223 2011-10-07 17:32:26
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Thought so, thanks for the quick response.
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By Cerberus.Wojo 2011-10-07 17:49:30
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Anyone tried offhand Uzura (+100 TP) for the crit rate?
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By Omegacloud0223 2011-10-09 12:31:26
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Cerberus.Wojo said: »
Anyone tried offhand Uzura (+100 TP) for the crit rate?

I'd just stick with Oirandori. Overall it's a great katana, good DMG, good delay, NTE, etc. Not exactly sure how much exactly it lowers a mob's crit hit evasion, but that and +5 Dex helps me a bunch with crits on a lot of mobs(especially new content NMs and mobs.)
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By Ragnarok.Baconchips 2011-10-09 21:48:14
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Today i got stp+3 and crit hit damage +3 on my byakko's. Should i use this for Hi with the crit hit damage or agi pants in and outside of abyssea?
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By Ramuh.Austar 2011-10-09 21:49:50
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byakko's for both
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By Ragnarok.Baconchips 2011-10-09 21:51:17
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thanks for the quick answer. still trying for agi+6 and crit + as well
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By Omegacloud0223 2011-10-09 22:26:53
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Ragnarok.Baconchips said: »
thanks for the quick answer. still trying for agi+6 and crit + as well

Same, I'm kinda being greedy for my augments, I want Agi+6, Crit hit dmg+4% along with something like Str instead of my lolMnd+4. I kinda want Str on Seiryu's as well if possible.
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By Fenrir.Nightfyre 2011-10-09 22:37:35
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If you ever get something better than STP/critdmg/AGI I will be very, very impressed.
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By Omegacloud0223 2011-10-09 22:51:09
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I'm sure it's possible, just a lot of luck. I got dumb augments before like Mnd+3, Vit+4 and crit hit dmg+1%. So trying to get max Agi, at least decent Str, along with max crit hit dmg, the odds are kinda slim.
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By Phoenix.Kirana 2011-10-09 23:26:39
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Assuming you are using the byakko's for TP set as well (which you should be, if you are not using usu feet), STP will probably be more useful than str.
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